View Full Version : Collateral (standard/thin case and label)


natlee75
09-03-2008, 02:48 AM
Hey all,

I'm back after an unintended vacation from the site due to my previous PC's infection with a nasty Trojan horse. I'm now on a new and more powerful PC (thank GOD because some of those templates and assets were BRUTAL on my 1GB of RAM) and have gotten around to a few more designs.

I think I'm ready to try out for one of them there free passes and would like to get feedback on everything I'm going to submit for approval.

First up is the Tom Cruise vehicle Collateral. I actually did this one because it's one of the DVDs I own that I wanted to put in a thin case so I have more room on my shelves. I figured I might as well do the full case and the label as well even though I won't use them personally.

Let me know what you think...

NL

natlee75
09-03-2008, 02:58 AM
I just realized that I forgot to add an orange highlight to the actors' names in the synopsis and, even worse, forgot Tom Cruise's name completely. I attached corrected images with this follow-up message.

RookerProductions
09-03-2008, 03:05 AM
gotta tell yeah, I like this one, it's simple, but for this movie, it works... I like the font, and the orange highlights, I also like how you blended the screen shots.. Good Job

natlee75
09-03-2008, 03:21 AM
gotta tell yeah, I like this one, it's simple, but for this movie, it works... I like the font, and the orange highlights, I also like how you blended the screen shots.. Good Job

Thanks a lot! That's exactly what I was going for - nice and simple.

dragonbane
09-03-2008, 03:27 AM
yepp deffo looks good simple really works with this nice job natlee :cool:

Bisky
09-03-2008, 03:51 AM
Yup I have to agree, the cover is simple and it really works for the movie, the only thing I`m not fussed on is the pic on the top and bottom of the spine, I`d go with either one but not both.

well done looks really good.

batboysmatboy
09-03-2008, 04:55 AM
I agree with Bisky, dragonbane, and RookerProductions, the simple way was the way to go. Looks good.

One thing:
On Cover 7153, there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the C and ends after the L.

On Cover 7154 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the middle of the C and ends after the L.

On Label 7115 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the O and ends after the L.

On Cover 7159, there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the C and ends after the L.

On Cover 7160 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the middle of the C and ends after the L.

I don't know if it is the way my laptop is displaying it or if it is a glitch. However, if the black rectangle is planned (in a glitch free way), I think the Cover and Label would look better without the black rectangle.

natlee75
09-03-2008, 04:56 AM
Yup I have to agree, the cover is simple and it really works for the movie, the only thing I`m not fussed on is the pic on the top and bottom of the spine, I`d go with either one but not both.

well done looks really good.

Thanks!

I decided on the dual spine images because of the dual leads in the movie. I kind of felt bad for Jamie Foxx for not having his own showcase photo. :)

natlee75
09-03-2008, 04:57 AM
I agree with Bisky, dragonbane, and RookerProductions, the simple way was the way to go. Looks good.

One thing:
On Cover 7153, there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the C and ends after the L.

On Cover 7154 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the middle of the C and ends after the L.

On Label 7115 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the O and ends after the L.

On Cover 7159, there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the C and ends after the L.

On Cover 7160 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the middle of the C and ends after the L.

I don't know if it is the way my laptop is displaying it or if it is a glitch. However, if the black rectangle is planned (in a glitch free way), I think the Cover and Label would look better without the black rectangle.

Actually, I just realized this after I printed it out. I didn't notice it on my monitor (mainly because I wasn't really looking) but I did notice it when I was trying to figure out why my cover wasn't lined up properly (something else I'm fixing).

Thanks for the note!

NL

natlee75
09-03-2008, 05:11 AM
I agree with Bisky, dragonbane, and RookerProductions, the simple way was the way to go. Looks good.

One thing:
On Cover 7153, there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the C and ends after the L.

On Cover 7154 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the middle of the C and ends after the L.

On Label 7115 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the O and ends after the L.

On Cover 7159, there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the begining of the C and ends after the L.

On Cover 7160 there is a black rectangle behind the word Collateral which starts at the middle of the C and ends after the L.

I don't know if it is the way my laptop is displaying it or if it is a glitch. However, if the black rectangle is planned (in a glitch free way), I think the Cover and Label would look better without the black rectangle.

Hey there,

It's actually REALLY hard for me to see on my monitor for some reason. I'm using a brand new monitor so the callibration might be off.

Can you take a look at these and see if the issue is fixed? I know I fixed it a bit but I just can't see if the fix looks 100% or not.

Thanks,

NL

batboysmatboy
09-03-2008, 05:46 AM
All gone. 100% fixed.

Once again, really like the cover and label. Good work.

sleepyhead
09-03-2008, 08:46 AM
Looks good natlee, I would reco changing the DVD logo on the spine to the same as the back. Also the credits look weird to me having Michael Mann stuck out on his own like that. I would also raise the black levels on the front a bit as well.

natlee75
09-03-2008, 04:36 PM
All gone. 100% fixed.

Once again, really like the cover and label. Good work.

Thanks for the help!

I didn't want to print the thin cover out again if it still looked odd... ink's not cheap! ;)

natlee75
09-03-2008, 04:38 PM
Looks good natlee, I would reco changing the DVD logo on the spine to the same as the back. Also the credits look weird to me having Michael Mann stuck out on his own like that. I would also raise the black levels on the front a bit as well.

It does look odd, doesn't it? I originally just threw him in the main block but my reference cover had it like that and the more I looked at it, the more normal it looked.

Cover goggling I guess.

I can change that easily.

natlee75
09-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Looks good natlee, I would reco changing the DVD logo on the spine to the same as the back. Also the credits look weird to me having Michael Mann stuck out on his own like that. I would also raise the black levels on the front a bit as well.

Jeez Louise... I didn't even realize that the two DVD logos were different. Did the DVD people change that logo at some point? I'm assuming the one on the back, with the word "VIDEO" outside of the oval, is the current one.

Bisky
09-03-2008, 05:04 PM
Jeez Louise... I didn't even realize that the two DVD logos were different. Did the DVD people change that logo at some point? I'm assuming the one on the back, with the word "VIDEO" outside of the oval, is the current one.

yes mate, the one with "video" on the outside is the newer version

natlee75
09-04-2008, 05:30 AM
Looks good natlee, I would reco changing the DVD logo on the spine to the same as the back. Also the credits look weird to me having Michael Mann stuck out on his own like that. I would also raise the black levels on the front a bit as well.

I matched up the DVD logo and increased the black level on the front key art just a tad so as to not make the image way too dark. I also adjusted the credits. Oh yeah... got rid of the center hole of the label, too. :)

metamate
09-05-2008, 11:42 AM
Hey there,

It's actually REALLY hard for me to see on my monitor for some reason. I'm using a brand new monitor so the callibration might be off.

Can you take a look at these and see if the issue is fixed? I know I fixed it a bit but I just can't see if the fix looks 100% or not.

Thanks,

NL

The black rectangles seems to be gone but I've noticed there's some kind of orange bleed around the letters R and A and partly around the L in Collateral in picture 7198 and around the R and A in picture 7199. In picture 7200 the bleed seems to be around the L in Collateral. I can't tell if it's a Res issue or an artifact left over from the black box. Sorry if this sounds nit-picky. The covers themselves look great. The only thing I noticed about them is that the credits on the back covers are great until you get to Micheal Mann's name. It seems lonely on the right. I'd suggest moving it down on it's own, centering it, reduce the size of the DreamWorks logo and moving it underneath the area where Mann's name appears.


Hope this helps, kid.

EDIT: Didn't notice the second page in the thread. Apologies. I've also adjusted the picture ID to the newer ones. Sorry for confusion.

natlee75
09-05-2008, 01:49 PM
The black rectangles seems to be gone but I've noticed there's some kind of orange bleed around the letters R and A and partly around the L in Collateral in picture 7198 and around the R and A in picture 7199. In picture 7200 the bleed seems to be around the L in Collateral. I can't tell if it's a Res issue or an artifact left over from the black box. Sorry if this sounds nit-picky.

It doesn't and is really helpful but unfortunately I can't see this myself. I'm going to try looking at it at work to see if I can spot these issues on that monitor.

The covers themselves look great. The only thing I noticed about them is that the credits on the back covers are great until you get to Micheal Mann's name. It seems lonely on the right. I'd suggest moving it down on it's own, centering it, reduce the size of the DreamWorks logo and moving it underneath the area where Mann's name appears.

Is this a reference to my earlier set of images or does this still apply to the latest set where Michael Mann's directing credit is just another part of the fourth row of billing credits?

Hope this helps, kid.

EDIT: Didn't notice the second page in the thread. Apologies. I've also adjusted the picture ID to the newer ones. Sorry for confusion.

metamate
09-05-2008, 05:20 PM
It doesn't and is really helpful but unfortunately I can't see this myself. I'm going to try looking at it at work to see if I can spot these issues on that monitor.



Is this a reference to my earlier set of images or does this still apply to the latest set where Michael Mann's directing credit is just another part of the fourth row of billing credits?

The credits thing, ignore what I said about moving the Mann credit down. But what I said about the DreamWork logo is still good. There's nothing in the blank spot on the right. If you moved the DW logo over it might balance out.

I've included some close ups of the orange bleed. Hope that helps.

batboysmatboy
09-05-2008, 05:33 PM
Not to contradict metamate (I would never do that), but I don't see the orange bleed on my laptop. If you can't see it either, short of printing it out, maybe you could post a thread in "Helpdesk" outlining what metamate said, with links to this post so you can get other members' views. It could be our monitors, or it could be metamate's monitor. Just a thought.

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Now that metamate circled it and ulpoaded it, I can see it on his example. I opened your files in a new window, blew it up, and I think I can see what metamate is talking about. It seems to be around all the letters, almost like a slight shadow. I think it might be one of two things:

1) It could be the way you acquired the font. If you didn't type it, it could be a shadow from the the original, or if you cut each letter separately, it could be a remnant of the cut line.
2) It could be the way the monitor is interpreting the data. Some colors look like they bleed or a too intense (kinda shinny) according to the other color they are close to. (see story below)

Small story, about 25 years ago when computers were dummy terminals connected to mainframes, you could only create 4 colors on the screen. My computer class had a project to write a program to create some kind of picture on the monitor. I had put it off all week and partied the night before it was due. I went to the computer lab that morning and wrote a line generator, that randomly picked from the 4 colors and randomly placed them on the screen. After about a 500 lines, it would blank the screen and start again. We viewed each project, everyone else made these great pictures in 4 colors. I was dead. When it was my turn, everyone just looked blankly at the screen. All of a sudden, one guy says "is that purple?". Long story shorter (so I get to my point), It took a cluster of pixels (I think it was 4) to create a color dot and we had no program control (on that level) to color individual pixels. My random line generator caused different pixels in each dot to be different colors, so some dots had a combo of the four colors in its cluster and created a new color dot. So everyone had 4 colors, and I had many more colors. Here is the point, the pixels (crystals, LEDs, plasma, etc) may be creating this bleed because the colors are mixing in the cluster. Printing it out might be the only way to be sure.

Bisky
09-05-2008, 05:56 PM
Not to contradict metamate (I would never do that), but I don't see the orange bleed on my laptop. If you can't see it either, short of printing it out, maybe you could post a thread in "Helpdesk" outlining what metamate said, with links to this post so you can get other members' views. It could be our monitors, or it could be metamate's monitor. Just a thought.

Its definately there I can see it too, its like an outline.

Did you cut and paste it off a poster or something?

Just needs cleanin up a bit.

batboysmatboy
09-05-2008, 06:24 PM
Well I think we can be sure it is there. Bisky saw it while I was editing my first post. Either you and I need to get our glasses changed, or metamate and Bisky have eagle eyes. Good catch

Bisky
09-05-2008, 06:27 PM
Well I think we can be sure it is there. Bisky saw it while I was editing my first post. Either you and I need to get our glasses changed, or metamate and Bisky have eagle eyes. Good catch

I just clicked on the preview so it was alot bigger and then zoomed in mate.

natlee75
09-05-2008, 11:17 PM
I saw some traces of very very faint orange but only at the bottom of the letters. I didn't see anything on the sides or the top. Remember that black bar behind the title? That was me deleting the original title not realizing that it wasn't sheer black there.

When I went back and used the clone stamp tool to fix the area I must have missed those slivers of really faint orange. I believe I got them -- at least everything I could see on my work monitor. Let me know if it's still an issue...

Thanks!

natlee75
09-05-2008, 11:18 PM
Here are the edited images...

Bisky
09-05-2008, 11:33 PM
hate to be really picky, but just want ya to get it spot on, there is still a tiny bit of orange on the top of the R

cheers

metamate
09-05-2008, 11:47 PM
I can see it too. Only slight traces remain.

batboysmatboy
09-06-2008, 01:02 AM
I have to agree with Bisky and metamate about it still being there. I took a page from metamate's book and am attaching files that show it (circled in blue). Also, to quote Bisky hate to be really picky, but just want ya to get it spot on

We seem to be picky because we want your work to be as great as it can be. If we didn't like it, we wouldn't bother commenting. So don't dispair, just repair (ha, ha).

I said it before and I'll say it again


really like the cover and label. Good work

natlee75
09-06-2008, 01:32 AM
I have to agree with Bisky and metamate about it still being there. I took a page from metamate's book and am attaching files that show it (circled in blue). Also, to quote Bisky

We seem to be picky because we want your work to be as great as it can be. If we didn't like it, we wouldn't bother commenting. So don't dispair, just repair (ha, ha).

I said it before and I'll say it again

I don't take any of it negatively at all. I'm actually kicking myself because I didn't see that. I'm at home now with the weird monitor, though... I hope I can see it but if not maybe I'll just use those screenshots as a guide for the clone stamp...

batboysmatboy
09-06-2008, 01:39 AM
If you can't see it, just keep posting after you work on it, we'll be your eyes. Least we can do for a fellow member

natlee75
09-06-2008, 01:55 AM
I'm looking at the images at 1600% magnification and have to say that I can't see all of them. I did manage to find most of it, though, I think. Here are the new ones... let me know if there are still any spots.

Thanks!

NL

batboysmatboy
09-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Don't worry if you can't see it. After you do the work, post it. We'll be your eyes. It the least we can do for a fellow member