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Bisky
08-31-2008, 05:28 PM
Just started doing this cover, so thought I`d get your comments/suggestions.

cheers

batboysmatboy
08-31-2008, 05:56 PM
Like it so far.

Looks good.

One thing about the back:
I'm not good with hyphenated words, so I would move politician on to the next line. That would probably put down-on-their-luck all on the same line. Then I would put conspire on the next line, collide on the next line, to get on the last line. That's just me. If you like it the way you posted it, then say "piss off" batboy. I will not be offended.

dragonbane
08-31-2008, 06:01 PM
bisky when doing the synopsis remember to turn the hyphenate off, looking good so far mate.
although i'm not sure about the fading down the left side of the front.

Bisky
08-31-2008, 06:35 PM
any better?

dragonbane
08-31-2008, 06:38 PM
yeah mate it's better

RookerProductions
08-31-2008, 07:33 PM
looks pretty good, I think maybe the front could look bett if the left side was solid and not faded, or maybe both sides were faded, looks kinda off balance right now...

Bisky
08-31-2008, 08:21 PM
cheers for the suggestions

Latest update, any comments?

batboysmatboy
08-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Looks good so far. I like the color choice

Not to be picky, but if you tweaked the sepia toned images on the front a little to the right their balance would be better (centered wise). Also the three images below the photo strip on the back could be a little smaller and the girl could be a little more left.

Bisky
08-31-2008, 09:28 PM
Pics on the back look alot better smaller I think.

sleepyhead
08-31-2008, 09:54 PM
Coming along nicely so far m8.

I would reco not blending the edges of the screens and also the gunman's midriff. I think would look better IMHO if they were both solid as would the front edge. I also think the cover would benefit in changing both fonts you're using, I'd go for a more square thinner one for the synopsis and the critique one looks like one you'd use on a comic type cover, so I think you should consider using different ones.
I know I'm waffling on a bit here but although you're using a gradient for the back I'd try adding some mist and maybe lights sources similar to the front and then use a different blending mode for the bottom pics. Just a couple of thoughts. :)

Bisky
08-31-2008, 10:34 PM
Any ideas of what font would be best for the sypnosis mate?

cheers

batboysmatboy
09-01-2008, 12:21 AM
Maybe one of these fonts:

Elephant
Book Antiqua
Bookman Old Style
Century

sleepyhead
09-01-2008, 04:20 AM
Any of the ones batboy mentions would probably be OK.
I probably just use only about half-a-dozen fonts for the synopsis basically coz they're clear and legible. If I did a comic or maybe horror one then I'd go with something I don't normally use.

These should be alright as well.
Century Schoolbook
Chapparal Pro
Minion Pro
Perpetua

Bisky
09-01-2008, 10:28 AM
cheers guys, i`ll pick the one that looks best.

Bisky
09-01-2008, 12:14 PM
Any tips on how to do the mist/lights, ave had a go but looks terrible.

cheers

edit :better or worse?

batboysmatboy
09-01-2008, 06:45 PM
Bisky, can't help with mist/lights (I'm not technical enough) but I can suggest a couple of tweaks (I'm such a nudge).

Front:
(*) The girl on the front has some hair and her left shoulder cut off. It just grates on my anal retentive self. Also I think the front would work better is she was in full.


Back:
(*) The three on the back look better now (smaller and in full color).

(*) I like that we see the beer in his hand now.

(*) Maybe the girl could be a tad bigger, she seems a little smaller than beer guy aspect wise. Also her neck looks very long (could be aspect ratio or just the actual pic). Also she might play better facing the guy with the beer.

(*) Guy on left, he is still a little too big aspect wise and his color is still muted.

This is a wonderful cover and my anal ways find the above. You cover, your concept, your artwork. Take the above with a grain of salt and do what you think is best.

Bisky
09-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Front:
(*) The girl on the front has some hair and her left shoulder cut off. It just grates on my anal retentive self. Also I think the front would work better is she was in full.

Back:

(*) Also her neck looks very long (could be aspect ratio or just the actual pic).

(*) Guy on left, he is still a little too big aspect wise and his color is still muted.


1.Theres nothing I can do about the girl being cut off mate as she`s cut off in the original picture, I`d prefer her to be full also, but not sure there is a full version anywhere.

2. her neck is that long mate, she`s got a very strange neck,lol

3.Yeah am gettin rid of the fella on the left I tink, Just cant get it to match the other 2 pics, will swap it for a better pic I think.

other than that, everythin else is takin onboard and I`ll see what i can do.

thanks for the comments,

cheers

batboysmatboy
09-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Thanks for your input on my input. I had a feeling that might be her neck.
Cover looks really good.

sleepyhead
09-01-2008, 09:22 PM
I knew the front would be sort of hard to replicate but to explain the process of getting there would be harder still, for me anyway.
I just thought it would give the cover some sort of fluidity from front to back.

It'd probably take 25+ layers with different blending modes and opacity, some with blur, some layers with a bit of noise, a few desaturated, a couple of colour gradients and some with the saturation turned up and some down etc etc.
I just thought the back looked a bit plain compared to the front and needed something extra. :)

Bisky
09-05-2008, 02:09 PM
I knew the front would be sort of hard to replicate but to explain the process of getting there would be harder still, for me anyway.
I just thought it would give the cover some sort of fluidity from front to back.

It'd probably take 25+ layers with different blending modes and opacity, some with blur, some layers with a bit of noise, a few desaturated, a couple of colour gradients and some with the saturation turned up and some down etc etc.
I just thought the back looked a bit plain compared to the front and needed something extra. :)

think thats a bit advanced for me mate, I`m still a novice.

Have updated them though, do they look any good and if so which one is best?

SilentWarrior
09-05-2008, 02:27 PM
I think I like the 2nd personally.

think thats a bit advanced for me mate, I`m still a novice.

The effect would look pretty cool on the back. Its that misty effect and sleepys quick tut would work. If you don't feel ready to go that far then leave it for now as it will most likely frustrate you :D

batboysmatboy
09-05-2008, 08:03 PM
Bisky, don't want to offend, but I liked the old back better (in some ways), but love the knuckles on the new one.

Here's a thought (if you want to try it) about the back:

Loose the guy and girl and go back to the guy with the beer in 7122

Dull down the color on the brass knuckles and distress them a little (so they look like they get a lot of use)

If you bring back the beer guy, play with him on left and knuckles on right, or beer guy on right and knuckles on left.

Really do like the knuckles. Does to this cover what the badge did to Max. It's like icing on a cake.

batboysmatboy
09-06-2008, 04:54 AM
I think I found a small typo in the review. I think "avoids theeasy option of feelgood" should be "avoids the easy option of feel good"

Bisky
09-06-2008, 05:00 AM
I think I found a small typo in the review. I think "avoids theeasy option of feelgood" should be "avoids the easy option of feel good"

yeah i must of deleted a space for some reason, good spot mate, cheers

batboysmatboy
09-06-2008, 07:11 AM
Bisky, don't want to offend, but I liked the old back better (in some ways), but love the knuckles on the new one.

Here's a thought (if you want to try it) about the back:

Loose the guy and girl and go back to the guy with the beer in 7122

Dull down the color on the brass knuckles and distress them a little (so they look like they get a lot of use)

If you bring back the beer guy, play with him on left and knuckles on right, or beer guy on right and knuckles on left.

Really do like the knuckles. Does to this cover what the badge did to Max. It's like icing on a cake.

I have been looking for pics of the knuckles to show what I meant, the attached is all I could find. If you decide to go with the idea, I am sure you can work out the look

Bisky
09-06-2008, 03:25 PM
I have been looking for pics of the knuckles to show what I meant, the attached is all I could find. If you decide to go with the idea, I am sure you can work out the look

cheers mate, wil give it a go