yes i know it's premature but what the hell, need all the advice i can get

Looking good so far, but the use of 3 cast shots maybe a little too much?

thats why it's on here to get feed back,
thanx ulam
not that i have got pic's, so i'll play around with them

Yeah its hard when theres not much artwork around for what you want to do, unfortunatley most of the covers im working have little or none about so it makes it very hard to do :(

Also just noticed that the chapters are repeated too :)

yeah the chapters repeat, unless you happen to have a time machine i can borrow so as i can get the proper names, (they were just for an idea of what it would look like) and will stay like that untill i find out what they are called.

I will agree on the multi screen shots needing to be changed.

Some more considerations:

Shadow of cast pic on front. The shadow does not match the light source. The shadows need to be more elongated. As of right now the shadow looks like the light source should be directly behind and above the middle of the group. In fact the light is comming from the "Es" left. This would mean that the shadow should stretch away towards the right corner. Becasue it is so low you will have what should look like only their legs.

What are they looking at?

I could nor help but to wonder what their focus is on. If it was a flat pic I would say the title on the spine. But seeing as they will be on the front there is just empty space that they are looking to. You may want to reconsider this pics use for that reason.

just noticed the people in the pic are season one cast, maybe add some season 2 characters as it's the season 2 cover, just a suggestion.

I think gravital gave You some good feedback on this.
It is always hard to make a cover for a film/TV show/whatever when it's not done yet - but I think You've done some good things in that regard. Repeating the names of the episodes for one. Good for giving You the idea of what Your final work will look like.

For the pic of the cast You have on the front - it's kinda tricky - and I must say that I agree with gravital on perhaps finding more suitable material. The light is coming from BOTH right and left - and while You'd be able to make shadows accordingly - I do not think that it will work so well with the blurry background.

I'd like to know why You've chosen this particular backgrund, 'cause it's blurry/with a lot of motion in it - and while I can see the contrast between the street and the cast, I'm just sorta lost there. It does not work for me, sorry.

Hope to see what happens next on this!:thumbup:

I agree with JR about the background pic... It doesn't work for me either.

just noticed the people in the pic are season one cast, maybe add some season 2 characters as it's the season 2 cover, just a suggestion.

I can assure you this is season 2 cast, yes there are new heroes and when i can get some good pic's of new heroes they can be added


I will agree on the multi screen shots needing to be changed.

sorry g, but agree with who. if you mean these don't look good like this ok but you can't agrre with youself(thats either funny or scary,lol)

I can assure you this is season 2 cast, yes there are new heroes and when i can get some good pic's of new heroes they can be added

It's the season 2 cast, but I think it's a season 1 picture. Isn't Peter's hair shorter this season?


sorry g, but agree with who. if you mean these don't look good like this ok but you can't agrre with youself(thats either funny or scary,lol)

I think he's agreeing with ulookingatme:

Looking good so far, but the use of 3 cast shots maybe a little too much?


Due to the sunshine on the spine, I think the spine title might look a bit better if it had more of a drop shadow.

[QUOTE=spartanstew;13706]It's the season 2 cast, but I think it's a season 1 picture. Isn't Peter's hair shorter this season?
yes peter's hair is shorter, (sometimes they change, once the publicity shots are done, reminds me of OZ the gut playing mcmanus done his bit, went away got his hair cut, then got a recall and had to wear a baseball cap for that episode) but the cheer leader has red in season 1 but as mentioned this is a wip pic's used are for demo only as i wanted to know about layout ie:-
does the boxes look ok with the episode list in it, is the credits too much



I think he's agreeing with ulookingatme:
g is big enough and intelgent enough to explain for his own actions, ulam is refering to diferent pic's, so how can g be, i'm guessing g didn't read or look at version one (properly) i'm not going into g agreeing with ulam anymore, if there is gunna be this big deal about this perticular point this will be my last wip, i don't mind people critercizing where i went wrong with a cover and stearing me in the right direction ie:-
shadow does not match the light source- totally understand
What are they looking at? personally i don't think it matters too much, for all we know sylar could of let one rip and they turned away with the smell:joke:

Yep, I was agreeing with ULAM. I try and type so fast that I occasionally forget a word here and there. I meant to say multiple cast screen shots.

so you do not mean version two pic's. (not that i'm kean on these anyway)

also i am confused about the two light sorce:-
"The light is coming from BOTH right and left" as there are buildings to the right and left, i can understand what g meant by the light being low, but all that is there is (shadow) legs.
shadows are a funny thing, if you have ever seen Conpiracy Therory: did we ever land on the moon the ones saying no, showed pic's of shadows going in two different directions, the ones for, showed pic's of somewhere in america that does exactly the same kind of shadowing effect (but that was because of kerbs and the likes, so it's camera angles that cause this effect) but as mentioned pic's will no dobt change as and when better ones come to light (pardon the pun)

but as mentioned pic's will no dobt change as and when better ones come to light (pardon the pun)

:lol::lol: On top of Your great effort to keep up with all the advise You get, You even show that You have a keen sense of humor:lol::lol:

Nice 2 give feedback, when it's taken both seriously AND humoristic!!! :thumbup:

so you do not mean version two pic's. (not that i'm kean on these anyway)

also i am confused about the two light sorce:-
"The light is coming from BOTH right and left" as there are buildings to the right and left, i can understand what g meant by the light being low, but all that is there is (shadow) legs.
shadows are a funny thing, if you have ever seen Conpiracy Therory: did we ever land on the moon the ones saying no, showed pic's of shadows going in two different directions, the ones for, showed pic's of somewhere in america that does exactly the same kind of shadowing effect (but that was because of kerbs and the likes, so it's camera angles that cause this effect) but as mentioned pic's will no dobt change as and when better ones come to light (pardon the pun)

I am firm believer in learning through observation. So, what I want you to do is a little experiment. I am not trying to be an ass or anything like that. It will just go faster and make more sense if you follow the experiment.

You will need:

1 light source (flashlight, lighter, something that can emit enough light to cast a strong shadow.

1 shaply object. I was going to say a pencil but that would not work for this. Instead you will want something that has a distinct changing surface form.

1 low lit room.

The task:


In alow lit room with the object (lets say a small figurine) place it on a solid surface so that it can stand on its own. Make sure there is enough room around to observe the shadow that you will create (preferably a table top)

Next take your light source and position it above, pointing it towards the object. Turn it on. Observe the shadow.

Slowly move the light lower while still lighting up the object.

You will notice that the shadow will change shape depending on the position your light source is located. The higher the light the shorter and more directly beneath the object. The lower the light gets the more elongated it gets as it stretches further from the object.

Something that you may want to take notice of is the edge of the shadow with a close light source in comparison with one that is further away. The further the light the more decay around the edge (this can be duplicated by a gradiant selection and a blur. If it is closer the edge is very crisp. However you will still want to put in a blur on the edge to similute the fade to light.


This tool of observation can help in many instances of trying to recreate the look of realism.

As for multiple light sources. In this specific case you are dealing with a reflection. In actuality there would be another shadow if the reflection was turned toward th cast. Unfortunately this reflection is pointed to the viewer of the cover. However this would be much fainter than the original and would barely be seen outside of the main shadow.


Hope this helps.

g is big enough and intelgent enough to explain for his own actions, ulam is refering to diferent pic's, so how can g be, i'm guessing g didn't read or look at version one (properly) i'm not going into g agreeing with ulam anymore, if there is gunna be this big deal about this perticular point this will be my last wip, i don't mind people critercizing where i went wrong with a cover and stearing me in the right direction ie:-
shadow does not match the light source- totally understand
What are they looking at? personally i don't think it matters too much, for all we know sylar could of let one rip and they turned away with the smell:joke:

Yes, I know gravital is big enough to explain his own actions. Just trying to help. And there's not a big deal about that particular point. You asked, I answered. If people think it's odd that the cast on the cover isn't looking at anything, it's their right to say so. You can disregard any feedback received. It's your cover to do with as you wish, but there's no need to get defensive because people are giving their opinion.

PS. If you're going to use pictures/credits/etc. as placeholders, it's usually a good idea to mention it in the first post. By doing this people won't waste their time and yours commenting on things that are irrelevant.

PSS. You spelled intelligent wrong.

for the last time, when g said he agreed with ulam there had been another version which was directly under what he had writen , so by the looks of it he (to me) looked like he was commenting on that version as there was no mention of said pic, and i have no where said that i am the worlds greatest spewller.
mods you can delete this thread as it's my last wip

:jedi: Wow this is getting slightly intense. :lol:

Not to make fun but getting all heated up over this is really not worth it guys. This is my fault for not specifiing eactly what I meant. Hey I was having an off day.:rolleyes:

I know I am not the only one out there that has em. :thumbup:

I was origionally referring to the multiple cast shots on the reverse that were shown on the very first WIP attachment. When I started the reply I did not see another version so I felt that I should give DW a second opinion on the pics used. It just so happened that I agreed with ULAMs original comment.

EXCUSES: (yep i have em by the barrel load)

The internet service that I am using is not top notch so, by the time I am finished replying to a message 30-40 mins. have passed. There are som amny probs with it that I want to stab the freakin laptop repeatedly. especially when I am trying to upload something. 3 mbs of info takes about an hour and a half. That is to include the multiple times that the file does not go thorough. No the prob is not with the site. It is instead rooted in the armys overwhelmed satillite. The formula in my sig says it all.

Anyways... Enough of my raving. Please try and be courteous to one another.

DW... I have since checked the update of the cover. I did notice that the pics on the back have changed. If you are still up for feedback let me know. If not... No prob, I can understand.